Kara's Destiny, the Harbinger of Death

Harbinger of Death

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I just thought of an angle on Kara as the harbinger of death. In the past, whenever I heard about the 12 Greek Gods, I always assumed Hades as one of them. However, I just read that Hades isn't counted among the 12 OLYMPIAN gods: Zeus, Poseideon, Hera, Athena, Ares, Aphrodite, Artemis, Apollo, Hermes, Demeter, and Hestia.

Hades, the god of the Underworld, spent most of his time in the Underworld and is considered among the 12 Olympians. He's the THIRTEENTH Greek God.

From this standpoint Earth was separate from the other colonies just like Hades was separate from the other gods. By bringing everyone to Earth, Kara is the harbinger of death because she's bringing them to the world that corresponds to Hades.

posted by crood on the BSG forum

Prophecy Coming True

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Note: If there was already of a thread for discussion about this, sorry I didn't find it.

After I first read this, I thought it was major. How it would play out would be interesting. Let alone it was an interesting tid-bit that RDM left for us in Razor. I'm not going to over-analyse this, and there are not theories, except maybe a couple, but only as interpretations. He mentioned that things in Razor would set up things in season 4. This prophecy was a pretty big one.

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At last, they’ve come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough. Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all. The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many. And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.

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Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.

The thing about prophecies is that they can interpreted many different ways by different people. Most of the prophecy hadn't come to past at the timeline in Razor, but did come to pass as a view. The second half seems to be the fourth season.

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The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough.

- New Caprica
- The Cylon experiment with Human's didn't work

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Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves.

- Four of the Final Five, all now struggling with the revelation they are Cylons. We are seeing each of their reaction to this revelation and how their characters deal with it. All are dealing with it differently.

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The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her.

Here is where it gets juicy:
- Baltar finding Tori
- Saul finding Caprica-Six
- Leoben finding Kara

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Enemies brought together by impossible longing. Enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable.

- Saul and Caprica-Six
- Kara and Leoben
- The Colonials and the Rebel Cylons

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And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.

Here is where I throw in a bit of theory. Some say this is referring to Baltar. Back after Rapture and got back with the fleet, Adama did that weird torture thing. He was in darkness and clawed to light. Does this mean Baltar is the Final Cylon?

I have a hard time swollowing this because the sequence of time in the prophecy goes uncharacteristically out of order. I say, this part of the prophecy is yet to come.

The other inrepretation:
- Kara Thrace, her returnal, her seeking of "redemption" from the crew, mainly Adama and Roslin, in her mission to find her. She definietly howls a lot.
"YOUR GOING TO THE WRONG WAY!!!!"

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I can see them all. The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin.

- The Seven are the Significant Seven, who are machines.
- The sin part is about the Cylon's being perfect and that God created them perfect, but humanity was imperfect and need to be cured, by death. Well, they had a change of hard (Particularly the Cylon Heroes, Caprica-Six, and Galactica-Sharon). Instead, they tried to "fix" humans and see if they can work together. It was a weird experiment to try and use oppression, authority, and genocide to "fix" them. Well, New Caprica didn't work.

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But in time, it is sin that will consume them.

- This rebellion, the factions, all the death of Cylon souls. (Thanks to the One's)

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They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of one splintering into many.

This can go many ways:
- The Rebellion between the factions of Cylons
- The Three's (D'ana models) could be the "one" spintering
- Cavil's Cylon number is "One".
- First, it was the Three's splintering off
- Then it was the Cylon Rebellion. One's, Four's, and Five's, then Two's, Six's, and Eight's

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And then, they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.

- Earth
- Has been promised to us since the beginning.
- All following this Angel Kara
- All following this angel Internal-Six, or Internal-Baltar, or some other being like the Leoben Kara seen in Maelstrom.

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Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end.

Here is the big one. Again, more theory with a bit of analyzing.
- The end of one thing, the beginning of another. The end of this way-of-life perhaps?

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She is the herald of the apocalypse[...]

- herald

a.) a person or thing that precedes or comes before; forerunner; harbinger: the returning swallows, those heralds of spring."

b. )a person or thing that proclaims or announces: A good newspaper should be a herald of truth.

- Apocalypse

a.) prophetic revelation, esp. concerning a cataclysm in which the forces of good permanently triumph over the forces of evil.

b.) any revelation or prophecy

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c.) any universal or widespread destruction or disaster: the apocalypse of nuclear war. (I'm saying it's referring to the first two, not this one.)

- Apocalypse Etymology(History of the word/name): ORIGIN Old English , via Old French and ecclesiastical Latin from Greek apokalupsis, from apokaluptein ‘uncover, reveal,’ from apo- ‘un-’ + kaluptein ‘to cover.’
- See this is the interesting thing about the word. It's origins are more akin to a word like "Revelation". In Jeudo-Christian traditions, it's relating to the "end" prophesied in the bible.

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...the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.

- harbinger

a.) person who goes ahead and makes known the approach of another; herald.

b.) anything that foreshadows a future event; omen; sign:

- Well, there is a lot of "death" this season. lol
- I have no idea why they must not follow her.



So, there's my analyzing, theory, and interpretation. I'd be interested to see others interpretation, as well as interpretations as the season goes on. I'm imagining this was a subtle ploy by RDM. The storylines written match with this prophecy and can come off in different ways. I think that's the intention. There is different ways of looking at it, and a lot of them are true.

posted by OldManRivers on the BSG forum